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Debunking The Man-Made Global Warming Myth Consensus

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Use Google translate  this Norwegian, leftist publication SC. Then remember that it is July/summer in the Artic and the predictions they've made about the artic.

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10 hours ago, staringclown said:

That's rich coming from you who've provided absolutely no proof of anything. You rely on google alerts to post any headline around the world that had some cold weather. You don't even read the articles. That's why you post a school kids blog and call it proof. 

Here's the homogenised data versus the actual data - massive difference eh?

 
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Firstly, I don't have to prove anything as I'm not an advocate of globull warming theory. All I'm doing to comparing their predictions based on the theory over the last 30-50 years versus the actuals and they've been wrong. Shame those scientists were not forced to bet their house on their predictions - nothing like skin in the game to make you accountable.

As far as your chart, the article in the Australian from Marohassy is behind a paywall, so I can't paste the contents, but I've found other sites (here and here) that refer to it, with some lovely tables. I like this bit in particular:

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by Jennifer Marohasy on July 18, 2017:

TWO weeks ago, in response to my queries the Australian Bureau of Meteorology acknowledged that it had put in place limits on the lowest temperature that an individual weather station could record.

Once again, if you consider Marohassy to be an unqualified charlatan, then feel free to contact her and tell her as such. It should be easy for you to point the irrefutable facts from the settled science. Make sure you keep us posted on the exchange. Ditto for the NZ professor. I'm awaiting with great anticipation to your postings on those exchanges.

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Is Columbia University a known right wing publication?

Otherwise that picture of Europe in 1741 shows a drought that is worse than today.

Was that also caused by humans?

Surely, there no cycle(s) that repeat over time!

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12 hours ago, cobran20 said:

Firstly, I don't have to prove anything as I'm not an advocate of globull warming theory

Fine. I'll lock the thread. Because if you have no burden of proof, you're just trolling.

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Anyone feeling positive about denial any more?

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I am!

The issue is not change, but the role of human activity in being responsible for the change. My bullsh*t detector is still going off because there are too many people with skin in the game (economic or political) making lots of noises.

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20 hours ago, Mr Medved said:

I am!

The issue is not change, but the role of human activity in being responsible for the change. My bullsh*t detector is still going off because there are too many people with skin in the game (economic or political) making lots of noises.

So the temperature is rising but humans have nothing to do with it?

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Both fuel (e.g., back-burning policies) and arson have had a major influence on this bushfire season. It is quite possible if not probable these factors have had more impact than temperature.

I'm no expert nor looking to become one so not looking for a soapbox.

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1 hour ago, Mr Medved said:

Both fuel (e.g., back-burning policies) and arson have had a major influence on this bushfire season. It is quite possible if not probable these factors have had more impact than temperature.

Yeah, what I was asking was whether you agreed with the proposition that temperatures were rising. If the rises weren't caused by humans then you must have some alternate theory?

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I'm no expert nor looking to become one so not looking for a soapbox.

Mr M, I don't consider you as an irrational actor. Plus, I like your taste in music. I too am not after a soapbox. But after a month of choking on toxic smoke my patience for deniers is wearing thin.

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Temperatures fluctuate over time, due to cosmic activity such as solar flares, moving of the poles, volcanic activity, etc. which are unrelated to human activity. That's why I remain sceptical not in denial. So I'm happy to accept temperatures in general may be rising but not as an excuse to usher in some political ideology like world government, more taxation, loss of fundamental rights, etc.

Agriculture has been around a speck of time, industrialisation even shorter. So I'm not going to jump to conclusions - especially when I'm so ignorant.

If there's agreement on rising temperatures, then what? I think that's where opinions will differ and why cobran was also sceptical. Too many people trying to make a buck.

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I thought this thread was locked?

Anyway - I don't think anybody is disputing climate change.

The big questions are:

How big is the anthropogenic component?

What can be done about it? (Hint: global taxation is not the solution...)

Why can't we have a campaign to plant a billion trees around the globe in 10 years? We just need a tree-roots [sic] campaign where 10 million people world-wide commit to planting 10 trees per year for the next decade.

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2 hours ago, Mr Medved said:

Temperatures fluctuate over time, due to cosmic activity such as solar flares, moving of the poles, volcanic activity, etc. which are unrelated to human activity. That's why I remain sceptical not in denial. So I'm happy to accept temperatures in general may be rising but not as an excuse to usher in some political ideology like world government, more taxation, loss of fundamental rights, etc.

Agriculture has been around a speck of time, industrialisation even shorter. So I'm not going to jump to conclusions - especially when I'm so ignorant.

If there's agreement on rising temperatures, then what? I think that's where opinions will differ and why cobran was also sceptical. Too many people trying to make a buck.

The issue isn't ideological. Plenty of right wing governments accept the science. Other factors such as solar flares, moving of the poles, volcanic activity are in the model. 

If there's agreement on rising temperatures, then what?

We fix it like we did with acid rain and the ozone hole. I'm not against people making a buck. In fact that is essential. Harnessing market forces to fix the problem is the way to go.

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36 minutes ago, AndersB said:

I thought this thread was locked?

Anyway - I don't think anybody is disputing climate change.

The big questions are:

How big is the anthropogenic component?

What can be done about it? (Hint: global taxation is not the solution...)

Why can't we have a campaign to plant a billion trees around the globe in 10 years? We just need a tree-roots [sic] campaign where 10 million people world-wide commit to planting 10 trees per year for the next decade.

I unlocked it. thus is my super power.

How big is the anthropogenic component?

Big enough to change the outcome.

What can be done about it? (Hint: global taxation is not the solution...)

Why can't we have a campaign to plant a billion trees around the globe in 10 years? We just need a tree-roots [sic] campaign where 10 million people world-wide commit to planting 10 trees per year for the next decade.

We need rain. And an absence of Bolsanaro

Equally, why can't we have a market driven solution for a transition to non fossil fuel energy?

 

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What a disgrace that SloMo has not been charged, or at least investigated for assaulting that woman in the bush fires. Forcibly grabbing a hand and shaking it is assault; There is no discussion. Morrison assaulted that woman.

Maybe we should stand around and sing Hellsong's more serious assaults.

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8 minutes ago, zaph said:

What a disgrace that SloMo has not been charged, or at least investigated for assaulting that woman in the bush fires. Forcibly grabbing a hand and shaking it is assault; There is no discussion. Morrison assaulted that woman.

Maybe we should stand around and sing Hellsong's more serious assaults.

This man is a cheat, thief and liar. Jail for him!!

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