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How long will Kevin remain

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The Australian public doesn't have a memory.

If they raise it they should go straight to 20%. It's easy to calculate and stops the discussion from occurring again until the average VAT in Europe is 30%.

Ordinarily I'd agree that getting the pain over early enough in the term meant the public would forget by the election except Labor will have learned from Abbott. He relentlessly didn't allow the electorate to forget the carbon tax. He has been strident that he will do as he has said with no surprises. Given that the coalition have now backed off any surplus pledges as well I can't see him changing GST this term.

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i dont get what WA guy expects, if GST went upto %20 say as an emample. he would just be bitvhing again about how WA no pays twice more thn it used to to other states.

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If Abbott pikes on his "no change to GST" pledge he will be handing Labor a great big stick to beat him with until the next election. Juliar style. The tax review he is planning will come back with the recommendation to raise it to 12.5% and remove the exemptions IMHO.

He may go for 15% and pledge to remove some of the other taxes that were supposed to have been removed when they introduced the GST! They should also remove exemptions that created a revenue hole to the government and an admin hell to business.

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It's started already. Incredible that Barnett can't balance the book, considering how rich that state is, with a relatively small population.

Abbott must look at GST: Barnett

What is wrong with these people?

Do they not understand that there is only so much money in circulation?

When will enough taxes be enough!!!!!!

Why not just make the GST - 100%; and why not broaden it out to include every single transaction involving legal tender. (sarcasm)

Hell. Why not get us to work for nothing, and the Government just own everything, and give it all out to us on a rationed basis. (sarcasm)

That would surely be the most economically prudent society, and governments would have total and absolute control of everything and would be able to supply every single human need.

Oh wait - someone has already tried that and it didn't work, and no one like it.

In fact people totally rejected it, because it gave too much money to a small group of people, who saw it as an opportunity to simply line their own pockets.

Can someone please tell Barnett to read up on Communism/Socialism/Totalitarianism, and every other "ism", that believes if we only could get more money we would solve people's problems. Bull#@#%.

GST is taxation/theft by stealth.

You don't even realise you are paying it.

What we need is parliamentarians who can learn to cut their cloth to suit their material?

Keep increasing taxes - in European countries its called "austerity".

Where did we get these guys who think if only we could get more money off the people, then we would make the people even happier. WAKE UP!!

If I have less money, I spend less, I buy less - the economy tanks......

GST was supposed to be the tax, which would eventually see the complete elimination of personal income tax.

Now what ever happened to that promise.

If Abbott touches GST - he will be ousted in a single term.

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Why not get us to work for nothing, and the Government just own everything, and give it all out to us on a rationed basis. (sarcasm)

That would surely be the most economically prudent society, and governments would have total and absolute control of everything and would be able to supply every single human need.

Oh wait - someone has already tried that and it didn't work, and no one like it.

In fact people totally rejected it, because it gave too much money to a small group of people, who saw it as an opportunity to simply line their own pockets.

Only people who never lived on the east side of the Cold War think the people who actually lived there didn't like it. The guard of the east didn't line its pockets nearly as much as the guard of the west does today.

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He may go for 15% and pledge to remove some of the other taxes that were supposed to have been removed when they introduced the GST! They should also remove exemptions that created a revenue hole to the government and an admin hell to business.

Agreed. I''m less sure of the rate that will be recommended than I am of the timings however getting rid of the other taxes is a good idea. I'd be happy to see the back of payroll tax for example. Of course my preferred solution would be a broad based land tax. :)

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What is wrong with these people?

Do they not understand that there is only so much money in circulation?

When will enough taxes be enough!!!!!!

Why not just make the GST - 100%; and why not broaden it out to include every single transaction involving legal tender. (sarcasm)

Hell. Why not get us to work for nothing, and the Government just own everything, and give it all out to us on a rationed basis. (sarcasm)

That would surely be the most economically prudent society, and governments would have total and absolute control of everything and would be able to supply every single human need.

Oh wait - someone has already tried that and it didn't work, and no one like it.

In fact people totally rejected it, because it gave too much money to a small group of people, who saw it as an opportunity to simply line their own pockets.

Can someone please tell Barnett to read up on Communism/Socialism/Totalitarianism, and every other "ism", that believes if we only could get more money we would solve people's problems. Bull#@#%.

GST is taxation/theft by stealth.

You don't even realise you are paying it.

What we need is parliamentarians who can learn to cut their cloth to suit their material?

Keep increasing taxes - in European countries its called "austerity".

Where did we get these guys who think if only we could get more money off the people, then we would make the people even happier. WAKE UP!!

If I have less money, I spend less, I buy less - the economy tanks......

GST was supposed to be the tax, which would eventually see the complete elimination of personal income tax.

Now what ever happened to that promise.

If Abbott touches GST - he will be ousted in a single term.

Considering the size of the margin by which he won the election, I'd be surprised if the Libs don't win the next one as well. As far as the GST rate increase, it depends on how it will be 'packaged' as to whether the public accepts it. As I've said before, Australia is the only country who has not raised a VAT rate since its introduction.

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Oh yeah I forgot...

As a member of the APS I can now be sacked for criticising the government! smile.gif Even anonymously!

PS urged to stay silent on social media

This could be my ticket out of Canberra. tongue.gif

 

 

It's now dob in a colleague.

 

Colleagues told: Dob in political web posts

 

PUBLIC servants will be urged to ­dob in colleagues posting political criticism of the Abbott government on social media, even if the comments are anonymous, under new Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet guidelines.

The sweeping new rules will even cover ­public servants posting political comments anonymously, including mummy bloggers on parenting websites, if a colleague knew their online identity.

 

Still, as long as Bolt and Tim Wilson have free speech then all's right with the world...

 

P.S. Abbott you are a piece of sh*t!  :yes:

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One thing i find annoying is that it is not the "Abbott government"; Abbott ministry perhaps but it is not his government.

 

It's ok, you can make racist comments so as long as it is not about someone in government. :)

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The following is half tongue-in-cheek and half curosity: Does this APS policy extend to ABC journalists and publically funded university employees?

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Strangely enough I never find myself thinking about Abbott. The guy is harmless to me. He couldn't tax me more if he wanted to. He couldn't clog my neighbourhood of pawnbroker bogans and lost coloured souls with more human trash if he wanted to. I am flatmating with a single female 40-something whose mother would give her life for her daughter to hook up with me. Her daughter and all her single female friends have no interest in any men. I seem to have been granted a halo.

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The following is half tongue-in-cheek and half curosity: Does this APS policy extend to ABC journalists and publically funded university employees?

 

If we can't defeat it in the APS then it will be extended. This government are going out of their way to pick a fight in the upcoming wage negotiations with the APS. Lead by example stuff for industry whom they regard as weak. Even the dob in a colleague stuff I suspect is just baiting to identify the troublemakers.   :wink_kiss:

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One of the policies I did like of Krudd & Goose was the mining tax on our non-renewable resources. The incumbents wouldn't have to then worry about breaking any international laws with a 'Google Tax' (except of when dealing with tech companies!).

 

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/energy-companys-11-billion-transfer-to-singapore-rings-tax-avoidance-alarm-bells-20150403-1me7ij.html

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One of the policies I did like of Krudd & Goose was the mining tax on our non-renewable resources. The incumbents wouldn't have to then worry about breaking any international laws with a 'Google Tax' (except of when dealing with tech companies!).

 

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/energy-companys-11-billion-transfer-to-singapore-rings-tax-avoidance-alarm-bells-20150403-1me7ij.html

 

The idiots in Canberra will look at this and say, "these companies aren't paying enough taxes, grab the pitch forks and torches" rather than looking at what SIngapore is doing and copying them.

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The idiots in Canberra will look at this and say, "these companies aren't paying enough taxes, grab the pitch forks and torches" rather than looking at what SIngapore is doing and copying them.

What is Singapore doing and why should we copy them?

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Attracting foreign companies to set up shop there. Granted in some cases in a manner I would consider unethical but I think there are going to be more and more me types around soon and getting the infrastructure ready to support small companies which operate purely online seems a pretty good idea. Australia loses all my tax money, Singapore gains what they have decided to charge. Small win to Singapore, relatively large hit to Australia.

 

And as I don't live in Australia, require the Australian government for anything and only have citizenship because they wanted me to work for them I don't see any issue with it.

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